# 549 Deer Hunting – Pro Talk Outdoors Podcast – Dave Barrett


Dave’s big on conservation and hunter recruitment

Deer Hunting – Pro Talk Outdoors Podcast – Dave Barrett. We’re kicking back with Dave Barrett from “Pro Talk Outdoors” https://protalkpodcastshow.podbean.com/ and “In a Rut” on CarbonTV. And Dave’s big on conservation and hunter recruitment, and we’re gonna talk about that, but also last year was his best year in the field, where he took two mature bucks, over six and a half years old or at six and a half years old. So having said that, Dave, welcome to the show and I’m just excited to have my listeners, you know, listen to you and hopefully follow you on “Pro Talk Outdoors.”

Well, Bruce, thanks so much for having me on and, you know, I’ve been a fan of your show and what you’re doing for quite some time. And I think we probably share a lot of the same listeners and, you know, just folks that enjoy good outdoor podcasting and good stories and information about white tails.

It’s quite a fame thing.Let’s just throw this out. Why’d you start “Pro Talk Outdoors?” What was the, you know, beginning?

Well I’ll tell you what, “Pro Talk Outdoors” in the beginning was something that we wanted to get started and just get some more information out there for folks, and I’ll admit that “Pro Talk Outdoors” was kind of a selfish thing for me. I selfishly started the podcast because I wanted to be able to have conversations with folks that I had a great deal of respect for and things that I can learn from. So, you know, you’re talking about your Mark Drurys, Bill Winkes, Don Higgins, I mean there’s so many great names of folks that we’ve had on our show that I’ve been able to learn a lot from, and I have a great deal of respect for them.

So that’s kind of the beginning of “Pro Talk Outdoors” and as we’ve grown and started our show on CarbonTV called “In a Rut,”

Deer Hunting - Pro Talk Outdoors Podcast - Dave Barrettour team has grown dramatically. We’ve got six or seven members now that are out there shooting video for us all the time and I really feel good about using our platform the way we have, to promote conservation and hunter recruitment, and just doing things the right way. I think that too often in today’s day and age you see with social media some negative light shed or some bickering back and forth within the outdoor industry, and that’s, kind of, the thing we want to squash. And we want to make sure that we’re all working together to promote the greater good of the outdoors and our hunting heritage.

to promote conservation and hunter recruitment,

Dave: Yeah, sure do.

…Mark Kenyon came out recently, he had an Instagram post and then he also…he just followed that up on one of his podcasts, and the perception of hunting not from our eyes but from the people that are looking at us. And, yeah, we’re under scrutiny and I would, you know…I sent Mark a little note and said, you know, “The hunter’s perspective might not be the right perspective.”

You know and you chew on that for a while and, you know, we’re all about what we know and we’re comfortable, you know, in our camo and all that, but other people look at us and go, “Whats up with these guys and gals?” And, you know, it’s up to us to reach across whatever chasm there is and get people involved or have a conversation, you know, that’s meaningful. Not “Oh, you don’t hunt? Well…” You know, that’s the wrong way to start. Say, “Yeah, I love hunting. It’s part of my tradition and, yeah, I’d love to, you know, talk to you about it. Let’s go have a beer. Let’s have a cup of coffee or whatever.” And just have a conversation about why you like to hunt because people need to know why you like to hunt, not just seeing your pictures. The grips and grins are great. But…

You know…

Go ahead.

Deer Hunting - Pro Talk Outdoors Podcast - Dave Barrett Yeah, no, you’re exactly right, Bruce, and if you look at it like this, there is a very small percentage, something around four percent, of folks hunt. You know, actually got out and hunt and then there’s a very small percentage on the other end of that that I would call your just absolute anti-hunters. People that just despise everything that we do and don’t understand what we do, and then there’s that huge chunk of folks in the middle that they’re indifferent. You know, they’re influenced by what we do. I mean, are we putting the best message out there to let them know about exactly why we hunt?

something around four percent, of folks hunt.

I’ll give you an interesting…something that Mark Drury…we just had Mark on our podcast again and he had said something to me that I found very interesting, and I’m probably gonna screw this up and not say it the right way but I’ll try. He was talking about a conversation that he had with somebody that is very popular in social media. I don’t know who it was. Didn’t ask for the person’s name, but we’re talking, like, a million followers or so, that didn’t hunt. Had no interest in hunting, no background in hunting at all. Mark asked the guy…or the guy asked Mark, he said, “Well, you know, I don’t think that I’d be interested in going out and shooting an innocent animal.” And Mark said, “Well you’re looking at that wrong. It’s not about shooting an innocent animal. It’s about feeding yourself.” And I think that that really, kind of, hit home with that gentleman because Mark’s actually gonna take him out hunting this Fall and the guy’s looking forward to it.

I’m looking forward to seeing how that comes out but the whole point of that story being, you know, most of us eat meat. You know, most of us, we’ll go out and eat a steak at a restaurant or we’ll go through the McDonald’s drive through. Or we’ll go to the grocery store and we’ll pick something up. The thing is is we have to take responsibility as hunters that we’re actually going out and we’re harvesting our food, and that’s what it’s more about than anything.

Yeah and that’s well taken, and people, you know, on social media they don’t see the end result. And there are people that talk about it. Chef Derek St.Romain, if you’ve never had him on the show invite him on your show because he’s really a good chef and, you know, he’s got great recipes, but he talks about the end product and the enjoyment of sitting down with friends, family, and having, you know, a great meal. You know, from the venison. Just a great meal and that provides, you know, a platform of we’re enjoying the hunt just as much when we’re sitting down and having that meal as when we were out and hunting that deer. Or the elk or whatever you’re harvesting. You know, duck and pheasant and all of that, you know, because we’re hunters and the end result of hunting is eating the game.

And I say to people all the time, they say, “Well why do you hunt?” I say, “Well because one, I truly enjoy the journey. Every aspect of it. It’s an adventure for me plus the meals are outstanding, and instead of going to the grocery store and picking up something wrapped in cellophane, you know, I know where it came from. I know where it processed and I’m preparing it just the way I want to prepare it.” And I said, “It’s a whole experience.” And I said, “When you go and buy your steak, do you eat meat?” And they say, “Yeah.” I said, “So the experience…I can go back to packing that elk out as part of the experience. So the value of that meal, it skyrockets when you do that, in my opinion.”Deer Hunting - Pro Talk Outdoors Podcast - Dave Barrett

Yeah and, you know, you mentioned a chef that you had on your show. We had Jeremiah Doughty a couple times. Jeremiah is, you know, he’s a wild game chef. Does a fantastic job. It’s something that he’s…I really didn’t understanding this or think about this from his standpoint, but…and I’m probably gonna get the figure wrong, but it was over 30 and maybe even over 60 different people or machines that touch the average piece of meat that you buy in the grocery store before it gets to you. I mean if you think about all the hormones that are injected into this stuff and who knows where this meat came from. I mean did it sit on a loading dock for six hours in the sun before it got loaded onto a pull trailer to get to where you’re at? Who knows. When we go out and we hunt and we harvest this game, we know exactly where it came from. We were the hands that touched it. We took responsibility in harvesting our food and it makes that meal so much sweeter, not to mention just more organic and healthy, whenever we, you know, eat it and we feed our family and friends with it, as well.

Yeah, my friend Sam Ayres, living in the country, he lives in L.A., works in Hollywood, and, you know, he talks to people in L.A. all the time. He says, “I’ve got the best organic meat in the world” and they kind of look at him. “Well where do you get it?” He says, “I’m a hunter.” And so, you know, it just takes them back but, you know, it’s the original organic meat and, you know, everybody’s, you know, into organic because I want it pure. You can’t get it any better. You just stated it. We know where it came from, we know, you know, how it was processed, and we know, you know, how it was prepared. I mean, you know, it doesn’t get any..to me, you know. And that’s the perfect example, here you and I are agreeing, but if we had a person in the middle, as you said, listening to this, how would they be viewing this? I’ll throw that out. How do you think they’d be thinking about what we’ve been talking about the last five minutes?

Well I think if a person in the middle, that’s indifferent and doesn’t have a preconceived notion about what hunting is and what eating wild game is all about, I feel like if you give them an honest explanation of why it is that you enjoy hunting or I enjoy hunting or anybody has that conversation, and you can actually introduce them to some wild game. Whether it be some venison tenderloin or fried turkey nuggets or any, you know, fresh caught fish. Anything that you’ve harvested out there and they can taste it and they can see your passion and what you’re about. Why you enjoy taking that responsibility of knowing where your meat comes from. I don’t think they can do anything but respect that, and I certainly don’t think that they can look at that in a negative light.

Especially with the argument of all the money that hunters as conservationists put back into

Especially with the argument of all the money that hunters as conservationists put back into, you know, wild game. Or, I’m sorry, all the public land access that we have. I mean for the most part, bird watchers, they’re not footing the bill on keeping these public lands open and this access available to all of us. It’s hunters. Hunters are the biggest conservationists out there and I think if anybody listens long enough or looks deep enough into it, they’ll see that and they have to respect that. It’s not the anti-hunters that are gonna support wild game. We do more for wild game and the outdoors as hunters than anybody else does by far.

Yeah, I’ll throw this out. I know a couple birders and I shouldn’t say it like…I know a couple people that are professional birders and I once said them, I said, “What if all your camera equipment, which is about as much as any hunter’s equipment. I mean some of those lenses and stuff it’s just incredible.”


So I said, “So we take every time you buy a piece of camera gear, a portion of that goes to conservation. What do you think about that?” “Well…” You know, there was no comeback. I said, “The conservation hunters, me, a hunter has been every single time I buy a piece of gear it goes…it’s called the Pittman–Robertson Act and it’s distributed by the federal government to states. And there’s a formula for that.” But I said, “Why aren’t birders included in that? Because you’re non-consumptive, I get that, but you’re using the same terrain that I am.”

Absolutely. I mean…

It’s exactly the same terrain, the same national forests, they’re using all the public lands as I am, but they’re not supporting it. You know, financially.

And that’s a great point. That’s a great point and that’s conversations that really needs to be happening, you know, with our legislation branch. I mean it really needs to be happening because it’s not people that are out there bird watching. I mean it’s hikers, it’s people who are just camping…really supporting, you know, the funding and keeping these public lands open. And that’s very important.

And so, you know, folks get involved in the discussion. I guess that’s what Dave and I would say. You know, get involved in the discussion of how to reach these middle people, one, and two, how we all should be part of the solution on public lands. Because I know in Colorado, in the national forests, we’ve got a big problem with weed growers because Colorado is one of the states that, you know, legally can smoke pot. And so there’s people just going to national forests and becoming pot growers. Now British Columbia has had that issue for a long, long time. It’s a big cash crop up there but, you know, you can get far enough away within a quarter mile of a national forest road and you can have it grow, that you’re gonna make enough money to support yourself for a year.

That’s the facts and so, you know, we’ve got another thing coming, you know, that we all need to band together. You know, whether you’re a hiker, a bird watcher, a fly fisherman, camper, you know, a hunter. You know, we all are gonna come into contact with these growers if you, in fact, use public lands. There’s no question about it. It’s not about when…you know, it’s not if. It’s just when. So that’s one thing I’m, kind of, raising a flag about. The people, they’ve really got to start becoming aware.

Yeah, absolutely, and it’s good that you’re bringing that up, Bruce. Guys like myself out in the mid-west, we would never know that’s even an issue if it weren’t for folks like you bringing it up and making it a conversation.

Yeah because I remember I was sheep hunting and we were on, you know, a track, a forest service road, quote-quote, and we came around the corner and there was a guy blocking the road. And he didn’t have a shirt on, he had a pair of long shorts, Doc Martens, I’m gonna call them Doc Martens, you know, high boots, and a nine millimeter. I’m going, “Holy fright” and I carry. You know, so I’m going “What’s the issue?” “Well, you know, we’ve got a little situation here” and it’s like, “Hey, I’m out of here. You know, hands free.” And my buddy…I said, “Keep your eyes on his gun” and he had, you know…it could have been bad. But it was just a shock, you know, and that’s exactly what he was doing. He did not want us to go up that trail. There was no question about it.

Yeah, that’s not good. Not a good situation.

But you have to be…you know, situational awareness thing. “There’s nothing we’re doing here. Hey, buddy, I’m backing my truck out. We’re out of here. You’ll never see…you know, we’re gone.” There’s no confrontation. There’s no, “Hey, I want to go up to…” You know, no. Just get the heck out of thee because it isn’t worth where it could go. I mean…

Yeah, exactly.

And there’s other guys that think, “Well I have a right to be there.” Well, yeah, but why ruin your hunt?

Yeah, go somewhere else.

Yeah, why ruin your hunt? I mean because, you know, you have a confrontation there, your hunt’s over.

Right. Yes, absolutely.

Just hunt’s over. So, anyway, that’s kind of, you know, Friday morning  we’ve been talking about it. So just a little recap of the first 10 minutes of the show here is, you know, middle ground. Reach out to the people in the middle ground, and you’re gonna hear this. I mean, you’ve got people, you know, Mark Kenyon is well-regarded in the industry, he’s a leader, he’s got a great voice, and, you know, he’s sharing it. I’m sharing it and Dave’s sharing it, but we’ve got to do a better job at this and I’ll get off this little rant I’m on right now and let’s close up this portion, Dave.

Okay. Sounds good.

You have anything more to add?

Deer Hunting - Pro Talk Outdoors Podcast - Dave BarrettYeah, I’ll tell you what, Bruce, I would like to talk a little bit about hunting  land. Using some mineral supplements and food plotting, you know, it’s more probably relevant to folks in the mid-west.

Okay. I meant as far as the middle ground thing. Do you have anything more to add to that?

Oh, yeah, no. I mean that’s something that we all really need to…involved in and it’s something we can all make an impact on, whether it’s, you know, just somewhere we’re at. Could be out to dinner, could be a bar, could be at the kid’s baseball game or something and somebody recognizes the fact that you’re a hunter. Portray that in a positive light. Be careful of how you choose your words. Don’t say, “I’m out there just shooting everything I can because I like to kill things.” You know, present us in a positive light because you, in a sense, represent everyone that goes out and hunts. You represent our hunting heritage at that point of time with that person that’s listening to you.

Dave just introduced the next segment about

And thanks for that and, folks, Dave just introduced the next segment about, you know, he lives in the mid-west and food plots are a big part. And, you know, hunting small parcels and so let’s jump right into it. What part do you want to take first?

Dave: Well, you know, I guess…I hear a lot of folks bring up the concern about, you know, not being able to, kind of, manage their hunting property properly. Like, “I can’t food plot” or, you know, “I can’t make sure that I’m doing things that are good for my deer herd by putting mineral out.” Whether or not it’s an issue that you just have such a small parcel and you feel like you can’t control, you know, what deer live and what deer die. I mean a lot of guys in my area, they’re hunting 20 acre parcels which is so tiny and minute when you think about how big some of the properties are out west. And they’re concerned about, “Well, if I pass this two year old buck up or this year year old buck up, then my neighbors are gonna shoot them.” And that very well may be the case, but there’s so many things that can be done by us as land managers to try to improve our properties, to try to make sure that you’ve got some of those deer that make it through, so you can kill a more mature deer.

“Well, if I pass this two year old buck up or this year year old buck up, then my neighbors are gonna shoot them.”

So let’s talk about what are some of the things that…if I own a 20 acre property, called you up, and said, “Hey, you know, what do you think? You know, because we’ve got, you know, one side I’ve got people that are QDMA, you know, thinking people. The other side, they’ll shoot, you know, everything from fawns on up and it’s on their land, they’re legal, and so they can. And then the other guy…it just depends who’s on their land and the fourth person is, you know, they don’t hunt at all.” So…

Right. I mean…

Go ahead.

I guess here’s what I would say, and I want to preface this by saying there is absolutely nothing wrong with the guy that wants to go out there and shoot the first deer that he sees, the first legal deer. I support that 100%. If that’s what your goals are and you’re just out there to enjoy the time out there, you want to harvest an animal to feed your family, I support that 100% and best of luck in doing that. But the thing I hear often is guys that say they want to kill that mature deer, but year in and year out they’re killing that year and a half old or that two and a half year old deer because they’re concerned about their neighbor killing that deer. Well obviously your neighbor can’t kill that deer if you shoot it yourself, but there’s so many things that you can do to enhance your own property, even if it’s a small parcel, to make that deer want to spend more time on your property.

You know, obviously where it’s legal, you want to do some…supplemental feeding, put out a good quality mineral. There’s an attractant. Some of them are doing really good things for the deer herds health. We prefer to use Real World’s Maximizer Plus with Expect Healthy Deer technology. It’s got a lot of probiotics in there. A lot of good things for the deer’s overall health. So we use that, you know, throughout the summer months and then also, you know, with food plotting. You know, you can come up with a good strategy to have food year round. Even on a small parcel, even if it’s two acres of food or three acres of food, there’s so many things you can put out that’s going to help keep those deer on your property more often than not, and not run them over to your neighbor where they may get shot.

I want to preface this by saying there is absolutely nothing wrong with the guy that wants to go out there and shoot the first deer that he sees, the first legal deer. I support that 100%

You know, what I on the 20 acres, you know, think about it. If you’ve got a guy in QDMA, he’s doing everything to grow his herd. He’s trying his best. The neighbor…let’s say the neighbor to the north. The neighbor to the east, he’ll shoot because he’s got a large family and he wants to eat deer. The guy in the south, he’s kind of…they’ll show up but they’re more, you know, social hunters and they might hunt, they might not. And then you have the guy that doesn’t hunt at all. So the guy to the west is the sanctuary. The guy to the north is a grower deer. The guy to the east is a consumer of deer. And you just don’t know what the guy to the south is, but he’s probably not enhancing his habitat. You know, so you’ve got a perfect…you’ve got three people, or actually four sides of you, that are helping you do what you’re wanting to do, and there’s only one person…so you’ve got three-quarters of the equation to your favor and people don’t think about that, in my opinion.

Yeah, absolutely. It all comes down to, you know, what’s a white tail need? A white tail needs, obviously, security for cover, they need food, and they need water. And they want to feel safe. I mean that’s the main thing. So it goes above and beyond just planning. Making sure you have food there and making sure you have cover. It also means you’ve got to do the right things when you’re hunting those deer. You can’t just go hunt every day on a 20 acre parcel of ground and expect those deer to stay there. You have to pick your days that are correct, where you can get in there easily and get out of there easily, with the right wind direction so that you’re not running those deer out of there. You know, you bump a mature deer one time off of a piece of property in the Fall, good chance you won’t lie eyes on that deer again on that piece of property. He’s gonna go over there and the neighbor may shoot him.


Yeah, that’s well said. Now going back, you know, on these small parcels, how do I set up my crops? Because I believe that you should have something available to deer, where legal, you know, 365 days a year. You know, that’s what I believe. So how do we do that? You know, how do I do that out on my 20?

Well here’s what we’ve done in the past and it’s worked really well. You know, let’s just assume that you have a couple of acres that you can clear. Whether or not you own it or lease it, it’s something that you can actually plant. You’re, you know, the owner or the farmer has given you permission to do something with it to enhance the property. So what we’re gonna want to do is obviously it’d be nice if you can have some clover there. Some clover chicory. Something that’s gonna start growing early, early in the Spring so those deer are eating that’s palatable as soon as…you know, even before you start getting any kind of green up around, you want to have something there for them to eat.

Some clover chicory. Something that’s gonna start growing early, early in the Spring so those deer are eating that’s palatable as soon as.

But that goes into you don’t want to have all clover because once you get a good, hard frost it’s not as palatable for those deer. So it’s really good if you can put out something like soy beans. Soy beans are fantastic late in the season and if you can get them to a mature stage where there’s a lot of pods there, the deer will eat on those all the way up until nearly springtime hits the following year. So we like to use a lot of soybeans on our properties, and then when we can we’ll go back in in the late August, early September depending on where you’re at geographically and plant something that has more different seed types that are gonna be something that they’ll want to get when it’s warmer out. And I’m talking about your greens basically. You know, your brassicas. Those type of things with, you know, oats. Any kind of wheats, anything like that.

And of course your clovers are gonna be there, as well, but that way if you’ve got a warmer day where a white tail’s not gonna want to eat soy beans because…and I’m talking about in the grain stage, not the, you know, greenery part of the soy bean. But that way, you know, because those put off a lot of heat. There’s a lot of oil content in soy beans and that makes the deer warmer. So obviously on those colder days they’re gonna want to hit those soy beans, but on the warmer days you’re more apt to see those deer feeding in the greens. So it’s pretty important to have both greens and grains available in the Fall if you want to keep those deer on your property.

Now when you think about your radishes in late Fall, you know, winter-type food, when do you plant them so they’ll carry over and they won’t, you know, get hammered? But they’ll be available when the deer needs that energy, those carbohydrates?

Yeah, I mean, every seed is gonna be a little different. You know, there’s like 30 different types of turnips out there that you could plant. I’ll say this, that, you know, we’re partnered with Real World Wildlife Products and we really like using their stuff because it’s been tested a lot. You know, they’ve tested tissue samples at different stages throughout the Fall in cooperation with, you know, temperature level drops. So they know when those things are more palatable for the deer but that’s the important thing. Now with their blends, you want to plant those, like…I’m in southern Indiana. So I’m gonna want to plant my stuff, my Fall plots that’s gonna incorporate, you know, the turnips and all the different types, I’m gonna want to…the very end of August or the first week of September, and then hopefully you can time that before it rains so they get a good start.

every seed is gonna be a little different.

But if you plant those things, especially, like, oats, if you plant those things too early they will mature so fast or they’ll mature at a rate where they won’t green back up the next Spring. And if you play that game right and you plant it late enough, it won’t go to seed in the Fall so you don’t have to worry about it dying off. It’ll actually green back up the next Spring and much like clover, it’s a good food source for the beginning of the following year and it gives those deer a good kick start and has them some nourishment there that otherwise they wouldn’t have.

You know, folks, it isn’t an easy thing and one thing that I’d recommend everybody, there’s a lot of seed companies, but don’t go to big box stores and just buy seed off the shelf unless you know exactly what you’re doing. You can read that label and you say, “Okay, this is what I want, this is what I want, this is what I want” because the emergence in everything that we’re talking about, and Dave brings up a wonderful thing, deer know exactly what they want to eat, when they want to eat it. You and I, it’s a science. It really is a science and it’s how their body can digest it. Deer in northern Wisconsin have been going to deer yards forever and they’re 100% on browse. That’s all they’re on. You know, they’re just on browse and that’s how they carry [inaudible 00:29:06] through. The rest of the year, you know, they move from here to here to different food sources.

So you have to become a student, and I just finished, you know, QDMA Deer One Stewardship and I’ve only been hunting deer for 52 years. And I look up at him…it was like, “Are you kidding me?” And it’s a great class and I’ll give a shout out. If you’ve never taken it and if you’re serious about learning about deer and what deer need, it’s a wonderful class. But what Dave said, it’s just deer will go and they know what they need, when they need it. And it doesn’t matter what you have planted. You know, you have to ask other people, “Okay, where’s the science behind this?’ It isn’t just grabbing clover and throwing it out and throw and grow type stuff. You know, be strategic and the better you are, the more the deer are gonna say, “Hmm, this has everything I need for every season of the year that I need it.” See that’s the…to me, that’s they key. It’s providing the deer what they need, when they need it.

It absolutely is, Bruce, and you brought up a great point. It’s all about, folks, educate yourself on, you know, what is the best feed for the deer at different points in the season? Do a lot of research on that and then, also, if you’re going to these big box stores and you’re looking at the seed, read those seed tags. There’s so much…tags. You know, they’re gonna tell you exactly the percentage that is seed in the bag and then there’s that inert matter there that, if that’s a big number, if you’ve got, like, 40% of inert matter in that bag, that means you’re only buying 60% of that bag as seed. So educate yourself. Know what to plant, when to plant it, and there’s so much information out there. You can get online and go to a reputable website or a Facebook page that’s got a lot of knowledgeable folks on there. One that I get on often is Habitat Managers on Facebook. There’s a lot of folks on there that really know what they’re talking about and they can give you some good information and good advice on what to plant and when to plant it.

Yeah and “Land & Legacy” are good friends of mine, you know, Adam Keith and Matt Dye. And, you know, I think they have really good information and they’ll answer your questions. You know, they really will and if you’re not on the message boards or on social media, you know, around people that are sharing information, you know, find them because, you know, if you’re serious about increasing the healthy herd, if you really are, you don’t have to hire somebody to do it. You don’t have to hire “Land & Legacy” to do it. There’s people that are working, they don’t have the time, so they hire those guys and say, “Figure it out for me because I don’t have the time to do it.” There’s a rising business, I know, you know, where guys will go in and, you know, custom food plots. Like custom harvesting. You know, custom food plots now. They’ll just come in and they’ll manage your land the whole year so you don’t have to go out, buy the equipment, and do the whole thing. If you put a pencil to it, plus your time, that isn’t actually a bad idea.

Yeah, not a bad way to go.

It’s not a bad way to go. A lot of guys are farmers. I’m not. You know, I’ve made so many mistakes with food plots and now, you know, I’m working with the guy that land I hunt and, you know, I’m getting his son and different people to say, “Okay, I’m stupid. I just don’t know this because I grew up…” Well, I grew up in New York. Long Island, New York. Give me a break.

Yeah, there’s a learning curve there. There really is and you’re not gonna have the perfect food plot the first year out. And look, folks, it doesn’t have to look beautiful. I mean it doesn’t have to look like an ag field or anything like that. The number one point of the whole thing is feed your wildlife. I mean that’s what it’s out there for and, you know, I’ve heard guys complain about, well, I put this food plot out and the deer ate it down and I didn’t even get a hunt over it. Well, so what? I mean you fed the wildlife. You made a positive impact on your deer herd. So find something else to plant to follow that up so they have something to eat late season. I mean it’s a win-win. You can’t lose by putting food in the ground for your wildlife.

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