547 Discover Sportsmans Culture – Chris LaCivita

Discover Sportsmans Culture - Chris LaCivitaAnd I’m really happy to be heading this, and then to catch Chris LaCivita before he goes to Virginia Tech. And he’s gonna be studying business there. But this show is not about a college student going away and leaving guns and fishing rods at home. Actually, it’s about Sportsman’s Culture, and why that began, and what Chris and the crew are thinking about as they go through their college experience. Because they’re gonna build Sportsman’s Culture out. And hopefully, it’ll turn into something that will be a career for them.

So having said that, Chris, welcome to the show. And I’m just excited to hear about the hunting and the fishing and the catching those fish offshore. You guys have been busy for the last 8 or 10 years, huh?

Yeah, yeah. You know, I’ve only been hunting for, you know, eight years, I guess you can say. I started hunting when I was 10. You know, my dad introduced it to me. And he hadn’t been a big hunter his entire life. It was really after he was out of the Marines and he wanted to find something to do that really, you know, he enjoyed. And he got me into hunting. And since, you know, in these last eight years, I’ve just grown as a hunter and as a conservationist, and I love every part of it. And Sportsman’s Culture, you know, was something I started only a year ago.

And I had, around 2014, 2015 is when I started to get big in the Instagram. And, you know, I saw these other pages that are trying to make these, you know, small Instagram businesses based on the hunting and fishing and the outdoors. And the first one I had was called Fishing Daily. And that was all about fishing. It’s all I wanted to do. And then slowly that changed to Eastern Pursuit, which was one I’ve had. And I grew that to about 4,000 followers.

And then just last year I had the opportunity, another guy that I worked with, he, basically, he was a guy that…We’re kind of like Instagram partners, was the type of deal we had. And he basically said, “Hey, I don’t wanna do this anymore. You can have my Instagram page. And you can grow it and do whatever you want with it.” And he gave me the rights to it. And I said, “Now I’m gonna start Sportsman’s Culture. It’s a great name. And try to make into a business and a brand for the outdoors.”

So who’s the member of the team. Talk to me about your team members.

So I have, currently right now, I have four other team members. Two of them are…well, three of them are very close friends of mine. I went to school. So I have Kendall Dreyer [SP], Will Potter, Jake Shatner, and then Ryan Kruger [SP]. And basically, three of them, Jake, Will, and…well, Jake and Kendall went to high school with me. And they’ve been hunting, you know, just around the same amount of time as I have.

And, you know, when you go to a high school, especially, you know, this time, like the way society is nowadays, and you’re able to find a couple people that enjoy the same thing you do, especially hunting and fishing, you really get close with them. And so we’ve basically just been hunting and fishing and filming everything since sophomore year, high school.

And when the opportunity for Sportsman’s Culture came along, you know, they’re all about it. And they just wanna punt fish and do everything we can to show other people and viewers, you know, more about the struggles and the challenges that actual hunters, common people actually have. Because, you know, that the outdoor industry nowadays everyone knows is huge. And the, you know, outdoor television, it only seems like it’s a whole advertisement, you know, the entire time. And we kinda wanna just show other people the realities of a hunt, all my team members do. And, you know, I think it’s kind of…the meaning is in the name itself, Sportsman’s Culture.

So when you look at what you’re trying to do, if I understand it, you’re saying, “Okay, here’s the reality of it.” And we all know there’s a lot of great shows on Norsemen Channel and Pursuit Channel…

Outdoor Channel, yeah.

And all those, I mean, you know, you just think of CarbonTV and Gen7 TV, I mean, it’s just, there’s a proliferation of it. And so why do you think you can gain traction with your tribe with their viewers?

Because, you know, like I said, we wanna create a community of outdoorsmen and conservationists. You know, we’re in the process right now. We’re young. It’s only been a year since we’ve really started. And we have all the, you know, trademark, all that stuff behind us now. And now we’re focusing building a website. And we wanna have, you know, a forum on there, where people can feel like, you know, they’re connected with us, you know, that they have a relationship with us.

And it’s not that, you know, all those bigger hunting shows, I know a lot, they have a lot of these things. But I want it…I think people are gonna, you know…just from the feedback I’ve already had on Instagram, you know, we only have 24,000 followers on Instagram. That’s the remaining platform right now.

How did you get 24,000 followers in a year?

Well, so, basically, how it started was I had, the page had some followers already on it. Because, like I said, I partnered with the page before, and he had…

Oh, Eastern Pursuit, right? Eastern Pursuit?

Eastern Pursuit was the first one. And Sportsman’s Culture was the other one that had…I forget the exact amount of how many followers it had. But then, when my buddy said, you know, “I don’t I don’t want this anymore. You can have it.” He gave me Sportsman’s Culture. And before, it was just a page where people would, you know, send in photos of stuff they had, you know, killed or caught or whatnot. And I wanted to create it into a business.

And the second I was able to do that, it kind of just shot off. And I still like to keep the part, you know, where people are sending photos and whatnot to us, but we’re trying to create a relationship with our followers, a community, you know, where they feel like they’re involved as well.

Okay, but 24,000 followers on Instagram is significant, you know. I know there’s larger people. But how did you specifically do that, to get followers just to say, you know, they want to follow you.

Okay. So, I mean, there’s a lot of different strategies that people use…

Here I am, a mature gentleman, you know, twice Chris’s grandfather’s age, but still we’re still talking because we’ve reached common ground.

And so let’s go back to, you know, the beginnings. We talked about the beginnings of your group, Sportsman’s Culture. Now what do you want it become, you know. And I heard some of it, you want it to be a place where people can see, people like just you and me, hunting and fishing and doing things in the outdoors. The business part, talk to me about that.




So we are in the process of basically creating a brand. That’s what we want   to be, you know. If you go around all these hunting shops, Bass Pro, Cabela’s, all these places, you’ll see all types of different brands with their apparel, you know, sold in these stores. And basically, the way we’re looking at it right now, we got a couple years of a lot of dirty work we have to do to get there, you know. We have to build, through networking, you know, we need to have a strong foundation before we can get there. And we’re just starting to do apparel.

And we also, I didn’t mention this earlier, but we have four other companies that we work with. Sigma Outdoors https://www.sigmaoutdoors.com/, which is a scent company out of New York, Devin’s [SP] Scope, Deer:30 Mineral https://www.deer30mineral.com/, which, by the way, has some of the best mineral I’ve used, and BearHug Ratchet Straps https://bearhugit.com/. And we do advertisements as well with them just like any other hunting show on the Outdoor Channel you see. But on the business standpoint, you know, we want people, like I said, like a community of outdoorsmen and conservationists that are wrecking our apparel around the country.

But we also want to have a strong footing here locally. We’re based out of Richmond, Virginia. And there’s a ton of outdoorsmen around here, ton of people that like to hunt. And I think we wanna be known, you know, within the community. I’m talking about, possibly, somewhere down the road maybe we’re gonna start guiding some hunts, duck-hunting-wise. But also, you know, talk about maybe starting some archery shoots at some of the farms that we have. And basically, just making it a whole community thing but having the business side of it as selling apparel and, you know, doing work for other companies advertisement-wise.

I should talk to you about Buck Wild Coffee. I know there’s a lot of coffee companies out there, but I have a, you know, a brand called Buck Wild Coffee. So we’ll talk about that. Because everybody drinks coffee. I don’t drink coffee.

I mean, we, every morning before we hunt, I mean, it’s a pot of coffee. It’s how it has to be.

Oh, yeah. I get it. I get it. I get it. So that’s something that I’m gonna make a note here, Buck Wild Coffee https://whitetailrendezvous.com/shop. Because I’m always looking for people, you know, to get involved in that and to figure out what the heck we’re gonna do with that. So, you know, having said that…So let’s talk about why you hunt. Here you are, 18, 19 years old, you know, why do you hunt? Because a lot of people don’t want you to hunt. I mean, they’re in-your-face-don’t-want-you-to-hunt, think hunting is gross, or other adjectives, as you wanna throw it out, but yet there you are with your buddies at Sportsman’s Culture, and you’re hunters. Why is that?

Discover Sportsmans Culture - Chris LaCivita

Well, you know what, especially the way society is nowadays, like you said, and you got so many people that are just anti-gun, anti-hunting, all this stuff, you go back 30, 40 years and, you know, it wasn’t a big deal when people would show up to school with a dead deer in the back of their truck and, you know, the guns in the rack of their trucks. It was tradition back then. And, honestly, when my dad got me started into it when I was 10, especially with all my buddies, when they got started into it, I think a big part of why we hunt is because our parents told us these stories about hunting.

And it kind of just ingrains something into you, especially through the experiences that you have while you’re out in the woods, that make you just want to continue hunting, to keep that tradition going, because we have a love, you know, for the outdoors just like every other sportsman. And, to be honest, I just couldn’t…I honestly don’t know what I would be doing if I couldn’t hunt. Because just the amount of joy and excitement that I know it brings me and my friends and my family, it’s better than anything else.

So, okay, I hear that. You find joy in it. But let’s get down to it. Let’s talk about, you know, when you go duck hunting, you set off the Deeks in the early morning, and then you’re sitting, you know, and it’s wet, and it’s moist, and it’s windy, and, you know, you’re just sitting there waiting for the sun to come up. What does that mean to you?

It’s a sense of peace,

You know what, sitting there…some people, you know, they think you’re crazy. I’ve had people telling me, thinking I’m crazy when I’m out there breaking ice and waders, you know, you’re duck hunting. It’s a sense of peace, I guess you can say. Today, you know, everything is so loud. And just to find something you love like that and just quiet, except, you know, when all the shooting starts, but…not just, you know, duck hunting but sitting in a tree stand, you have so much time to reflect. Now I don’t think that’s something that, especially today in society, we get to do very often. And it’s just special, you know. It’s not like anything else. And it’s definitely something that I want in the future to be able to pass on to my kids and my family.

Yeah, I think about, you know, duck hunting and setting up and shooting my limit, and then just leaving my Deeks in there. And then as it gets darker and darker, you know, web feet down, and they’re just working the decoys, and they come splashing in, and they start chuckling and feeding, and you go, “Oh my goodness.” I mean, you can’t capture that. You can’t capture that on film. You can’t do that.

When it’s happening, it’s just everything is just…nothing else in the world matters, you know. The only thing that matters is that duck is gonna come into your spread and you’re gonna shoot’em, you know.

Or not even shoot’em, you know.

Not even shoot’em. Just get the opportunity to watch them work, you know.

Right. Is that crazy? Is that kind of crazy?

It’s hard to explain to other, especially when you got non-hunters that are saying like, “How do you enjoy doing this? How do you enjoy hunting?” And you’re just like, “I don’t know.” I mean, it’s just something that you and I can only talk to each, other sportsmen, you know. There’s just something about it. And like you said, you know, some people, they go out and there’s like, “I wanna shoot my limit,” you know. “And if I don’t shoot my limit, it’s a bad day.”

When I’m here in Virginia, we very hardly, like, we barely shoot limits. It’s not the Midwest where, you know, you’ve got thousands of geese and mallards coming in. We go back in the swamp, we kill a couple of wood ducks, and we are completely satisfied just because it’s another day we can hunt, you know, and have fun.

Yeah. Yeah, and, you know, I’m just thinking, you know, some of the places I’ve been fortunate to hunt, especially up in Canada where, you know, one time the guy told us, “Well, it was about 20,000, 25,000 snow geese above your head right now.” That is just…And the sun is coming up, and they’re making all sorts of racket, and they’re in tornado mode, and it’s just like, you know, I’m living it.

And that’s the thing that I wish, you know, we could articulate to the non-hunters. Don’t even take a gun. Just come with me, go to those wheat fields, just lay out in the blind. First of all, you’re gonna set up a gazillion decoys. Then, you just sit back, have your cup of coffee, and just this all of a sudden, the sun starts to come up, and game on. And it’s just, you know, to experience that…

Because I think, and I liked how you said, “There’s so much noise today,” because we can’t get away from it. Why? Because we have our cellphones with us at all times, you know, and earbuds in, and, you know…we don’t get away from it. Then, here we are, a couple of guys saying, you know, “What don’t you just go and sit in the wet marsh with your dog, throw out some Deeks, and just sit there for a couple hours, and see what happens, you know, see how the earth around you works, you know.” I wish we could And, you know…

I hope…Go ahead.

So something that…I know what you meant. I wish we could show that, you know, show that better to, you know, to the world, but that’s something that, in Sportsman’s Culture, that’s something we wanna do, you know, through film, you know. We don’t have the most expensive cameras and all this stuff, but it’s so much more than just, you know, the hunt. You know, the hunt, that’s the bulk of it, but it’s being able to show people, you know, waking up in the morning, getting a cup of coffee, the side talk you have before, the excitement that goes into it, throwing out the Deeks and the, you know, the conversation you have while you’re in the blind.

And then just the joy and the happiness after the hunt, you know, we wanna be able to wrap all that together and just, you know, show to people, and show them that it’s not just about the killing. It’s about everything else that goes into hunting. And I think that is, you know, the meaning of Sportsman’s Culture itself.

Let’s switch it up and talk about what do you love better, hunting turkeys or hunting whitetails?

what do you love better, hunting turkeys or hunting whitetails?

That’s a hard question. You know, I’ll have to go with turkeys. I mean, I love early deer season, doe hunting. There’s just something about getting into the woods, end of October, early November. It’s crisp. It’s not too cold. And the bucks are chasing doves or scrapes or rubs. And it’s the best. That’s the best thing ever, you know. Nothing is better than that.

But especially here in Virginia, you know, we don’t have the luxury of having, you know, all these giant bucks everywhere. And the way I grew up to it, really your best time hunt, just like everywhere else is that small period during the rut. But then, we get dog hunters. They run their dogs through. And just the rest of the season, the last month of the season, a month and a half, is just blown out, and you won’t see a deer because there’s dogs running everywhere.

And so when turkey season comes, I just feel like there’s nothing better than, you know, you’re waking up, you hit that alcohol, and then the pines, the woods, everything just explodes, you know, birds gobbling. And I think I like turkey hunting more just because it’s kind of, you know, running gun. It’s constant. Compared to just sitting on a stand waiting, you know, you’re always on your feet, and you can hear that bird coming in and coming in. And then when they display for you, it’s beautiful/ and there’s just something about killing a turkey, shooting a turkey after chasing one all day or chasing one all season. You just feel very, you know, successful Talk to me about chasing turkeys. The only turkey I hunted is I hunted bottom of blind, and, you know, set up, and you get the Tom or Jake and a hen out there, and, you know, as decoys. And then, you know, somebody’s calling them in. And they come in, and they display, and, you know, game over, you shoot him. But running and gunning with turkeys is a little bit different. Explain that to me.

So I’m now out west, you know. You guys, that is a big thing, sitting in our blinds, just gives us a lot more open especially in different places. And there’s places in Virginia I’ve hunted out of a blind before. But running and gunning, it’s just…this is how I learned to turkey hunt, and it’s how my buddies did. And you locate a bird, when you hear that bird, you get as close as possible without spooking him, set up. If you know your surrounding, it’s better, so you know where he might get hung up.

But you worked that bird for an hour or so, and usually they’ll shut up, and you just sit there, you wait. Usually you just bring a turkey vest, sit down on a tree. After he shuts up, usually about 30, 40 minutes, or just calling every 10 minutes, you know, some yelps purring a little. And if he doesn’t show up, it’s usually, you know, he’s moved on. He’s found a hen. And then we go on to locate another bird.

And we killed, you know, this year, we only got to hunt, because, you know, I was in school, I could only hunt on the weekends for turkeys. And we killed three birds this year by running and gunning. And there is, I feel, like a sense of excitement it because you’re constantly chasing that bird and setting up. And, you know, someone’s pointing out, he’s gobbling that way, now he’s gobbling that way, and it’s pure chaos when you have a ton of birds around. It’s a whole lot of fun.

Now do you have decoys that you find a tree, put your back up, put the decoys out, and then…

Yeah, yeah, we do that too. We do put decoys out. Sometimes it depends, though, because we’ll have birds come in, they’ll look at the decoy, and they’re gone. They don’t like it. The second day of the season this year, I called in a bird, he came sprinting down a hill. And the second he saw the decoy, he went right back up the hill, and he was gone. You know, sometimes I wish I could know what that bird is thinking, because you think it’s gonna be perfect and then everything just falls apart.

But I think we killed…the first bird we killed this year was killed with a decoy, and the last two birds were not. They just came into the calling. And when they got…Okay, sometimes I feel like, you know, when they see the decoy, they can get hung up, and they won’t tell them the shooting range, compared to when you’re calling and they can’t find the bird. They’re gonna be a little more curious, and they’re gonna try to get as close as possible, and then you’re able to shoot one. So when you’re running and gunning, I actually prefer not to use a decoy. But I always keep one on me just in case.

So why don’t you run-and-gun on whitetails?

It’s just, you know, whitetail, it’s completely different. You know, around here you’ve got the oaks, a lot of oaks and acorns, and you know where they’re gonna be feeding. You know, we can’t bait in Virginia. So a lot of scouting goes into it. It’s mostly oaks, mountains, and pines. And if you go walking around through the woods with a gun, you’re not gonna see a deer, because they’ll smell you before you’re there, or they’ll hear you. And we just have to play the wind right and hope one comes by through our scouting putting out trail cameras and, you know, everything that goes into it.

Now the run-and-gun techniques is that you’re in a, for lack of a better word, an observation stand. You know the deer are there, and you’re just waiting to pat out of them no matter, you know, pre-rut, chasing phase, seeking phase, you know, the actual rut and post. And then you’re just trying to figure it out. And then you just take your hang on. And then you go to where they are. Because the more and more I talked to guys like you and people that are really good deer hunters, you know, they say they get about three sets on one deer. And if they blow that, then they get a go find another deer. Well, what’s your thought about that?

The majority of the hunting I did this year was in a climber.

Discover Sportsmans Culture - Chris LaCivitaI do believe that. I do take a climber with me. The majority of the hunting I did this year was in a climber. So I guess you can call that running and gunning in a way. We have our designated ladder stands. But if we get pictures of a buck, and we know he’s using this area, you can’t go into that one spot every single day because they’re gonna know. You know, the winds not gonna be the same every day. You got to play the wind right. Because if you don’t, and that buck smells you once, there’s a pretty good chance he’s not gonna be coming back to that spot during the day, you know. He’s gonna become nocturnal.

And one of the things that we struggle with here in Virginia, like I said, we have dog hunters. And once December rolls in, and it’s gun season, the dog hunters will run their dogs through everyone’s property, perfectly legal because, as long as they’re hunting on their property, they can run their dogs through someone else’s property. And it makes all the deer nocturnal.

So, for us, we have that small gap of doe season and muzzleloader season to get a couple sits in on that nice buck to shoot them. Because once gun season rolls around, it’s most likely not gonna happen.

Okay, explain to me, as long as I’m on my hundred acres, that’s where the dogs are gonna run the deer back, and my dog can run the whole township, and, you know, chase the deer back to my hundred acres. Is that basically what you’re saying?

So, I mean, not exactly, because a dog can go wherever he wants to. But the way we are…I have a hunt in a county, Buckingham County. We have 3000 acres there where we hunt. And we’re a sit-only stand-only hunt club. And all the hung clubs around us run dogs. So our main properties might be 1,000 acres, but they are surrounded by other hunt clubs. And what they’ll do is they’ll line up, almost in a circle, on their property with a gun. They’ll sit down in a chair. And it’s perfectly legal. They’re sitting on their property. And they’ll be on the other side, and they’ll release dogs. And those dogs will run straight through the property. Sometimes they don’t. And they get on a deer. They’ll chase that deer all the way ’till they cross the road and they get onto their property, where they can shoot it.

Now that’s some hunt clubs that do that. Not every hunt club will do that, you know. The Virginia Dog Hunting Association is a really big part of Virginia. And I’m not saying anything bad about it. Because the majority of dog hunters, they do it right, you know. They run through their property, and they kill a lot of nice deer. But it’s when they start to cross the boundaries that it can get, you know, kind of difficult for stand hunters.

Yeah, I’m just trying to get my head around…you know, if my neighbors running dogs through my, you know, my property, then every single deer in there is gone.

Yeah. And that’s, I mean, that’s happened.

They’re gone.

And it becomes a wasteland almost. You won’t see a deer for…I’ve had times in December. It’s cold. I won’t see a deer for a week because I constantly hear the dogs. You know, the dog hunters, they’ll say, “No, I didn’t mean to run through your property.” And most of the time they’re not, you know, they’re not lying. It could be that they’re running a dog on their property, and that dog got a sniff, and he chased the deer that was on their property through our property. And while he was running through our property, he got on the trail of one of a deer on our property, and he ends up taking a whole herd off the property. And there’s nothing we can do about that, because it’s a dog, you know. And he’s going to go wherever he…he’s trying to follow the trail to wherever it ends. And that’s just how it is in Virginia.

Yeah. The hunting tradition, you know, I’m sure is hundreds of years old, you know, hunting, you know. And so, you know, you’re probably not gonna change that. And maybe you shouldn’t, you know. I’ve never hunted deer over dogs, but I think it would be kind of cool. I’m not so sure if I’d like my dogs running through someone else’s property, you know. But that’s…

It’s a tough…

…in Virginia. That’s not out, you know, that’s not out west, or that’s not in different areas. And you got to kind of go with the tradition, you know, that’s there.

Yeah. And that’s what makes it tough, but it also makes it a lot more rewarding when you can shoot a big buck here in Virginia. There’s just something, you know, knowing that you’re only gonna get a couple chances of shooting that deer, and you’re able to do it, especially when during December, it just makes it, you know, very rewarding. But it’s just how it goes.

You know, some states, and I’m a big fan of this, I think North Carolina has it, where there’s only select counties where you can run dogs, and certain counties they’ll preserve to only gun hunting or something like…West Virginia, for example, I think just started doe-hunting-only counties. And from a conservation standpoint, I think that’s a really good thing just because those deer are gonna have a chance to get bigger, and they’re not going to be as, you know, pressured as hard, you know, compared to having dogs running through the property the whole time.

Yeah, our dear drives, I mean, in Wisconsin when I started hunting in Wisconsin, you know, we had 10, 15 guys driving, and we had five or six standers. I mean, we just, you know, we drive farm after farm after farm, and that’s the way it was.

When it comes to the, you know, the middle of the winter, that, sometimes, you have to do that. If you’re meat hunting, which, you know, we do plenty of meat hunting, just to shoot a doe, I mean, you have to do those man drives, or sometimes, you know, run dogs. And that’s a lot of fun, too. It is a lot of fun.

Yeah. Someday I’d like to observe it and be part of it. So, hey, in the warm up I mentioned, you know, about the one big thing that you wish you knew today that you wish you knew five years ago, that you know today and how that would have made you a better hunter.

Definitely patience.

Patience. Definitely patience. You know, five years ago I was 13. And I didn’t have a whole lot of experience hunting. And my dad would usually hunt with me still. It wasn’t until I was about 14 years old that I started to really hunt by myself. But patience would be the biggest thing just because I can’t…I mean, so many times I’ve gotten out of the stand because I’m cold or something, and I’m just like, “I’m gonna go back to the camp and eat lunch or something.” And I’ll be walking out, and a buck will come walking through the pipeline that we have. And I’m just like, “Of course, this happens. If I just sit, you know, stand in the stand for five more minutes, I would’ve shot that dear.

Same applies duck hunting. Happened to us plenty of times. We get up to go get breakfast, you know, mid-morning, then here comes a whole flock of geese flying in. I think patience is something that, if I’ve had more of it when I was younger, I would have been more successful. But as I’m getting older I’m learning a lot. And the last few seasons have been great for me.

Have they been great?

So this year I killed…well, before I say that, patience also in turkey hunting. That’s really where, you know, it comes into play because you have to wait on that bird to come in. The last two years have been pretty successful. We’ve killed some pretty nice bucks and a lot of turkeys. And the reason we killed a lot of turkeys is just because we were patient with our calling, and we knew that bird was gonna come in, and from calling in turkeys, you know, for a couple of years, you start to learn, you know, when you need to call and when you don’t need to call.

But the last couple of years, you know, we’ve shot some nice bucks. Killed some nice turkeys. And we’ve limited out, you know, on ducks before. And that’s something…and I’ve only been hunting for eight years. I haven’t, you know, completely experienced that yet. So for me it’s been, you know, pretty good last couple of years hunting-wise.

That’s great. You know, you think about Sportsman’s Culture, how are you gonna use that as a recruiting tool. Because, you know, that the hunting public is getting older. I mean, you’re a rarity, and that’s why I’m glad to have you on the show, because we need millions of guys like you, not hundreds, not thousands, but millions of guys like you. And how are you gonna use Sportsman’s Culture to help generate, you know, interest in hunting?

You know, by creating a community

Discover Sportsmans Culture - Chris LaCivita You know, by creating a community, like I said. But I’ll give you an example. Through Instagram, there’s a lot of younger people on Instagram. And all it takes is for one kid to click on a hunting page, or a conservation page, outdoors page, and just be like, “Man, I really wanna do that.” I’ve had people that are sending messages on Instagram, they just shot their first deer and they’re just, all they want me to do is post it for them so they can show other people. And I think that’s great. And being able to do things like that just really, I think, creates a foundation for people to keep hunting for the rest of their lives.

But also, you know, I’ve also thought, somewhere down the road, I wanna, you know, maybe you see a lot of these hunting shows that do charity hunts or create, make their own foundation or something like that. That’s something I’m interested in doing, you know, 10 years from now, you know. If this really becomes something, I would love to be able to give back to others and have them experience the same, you know, excitement and enjoyment that we get out of hunting.

Yeah, I love how you said that. You know, I think the future of hunting obviously is in your hand. The future hunting rest in social media and how we…all in the same common ground. What’s your thoughts about when somebody says, “I wouldn’t have shot that deer,” you know, they’re negative? Let’s just leave it, you know, they go…How do you handle that?

You know, that’s a hard question. Because I know I’ve gotten that type of feedback before in my page, where, you know, they’re like, “That’s a small buck. I would not have shot that deer. You need your deer to mature more or whatnot.” And, honestly, that’s one of the risks about social media. There’s always gonna be negative people out there that are gonna be hating on the things that you like to do, even if they share, you know, the same interests.

And that’s one of the things about social media that, you know, isn’t the best, because anyone can comment, anyone and share what they want. But dealing with it, you know, just by responding to that person, just being like, you know, I think everyone in each state has it different, or every single person that’s been raised and hunting has a different view of it, you know I mean, the way they are raised in hunting. And some people, they shoot, you know, smaller bucks or whatnot because they’re meat hunters. And that’s what they wanna do. Some people, you know, they’re all about trophy hunting.

And I honestly think, you know, of course, conservation and, you know, trophy hunting, all that is great for deer. But I think whatever makes people happy, and if they’re able to do it safely and responsibly, then, I mean, that’s all that matters. You know, there’s always gonna be people that are gonna be negative about it, but whatever makes that person hunting, that keeps them hunting, is the most important thing.

Thanks for sharing that. We’re at the time in the show. Last words, and then we’re gonna wrap the show.

So thank you Bruce for inviting me. You know, you reached out to me on social media. And, you know, before this, I haven’t done a podcast or any type of interview before. So this is a great way to get started. But for everyone who’s listening right now, you know, Bruce is a great guy. This podcast is definitely something that’s new to me, but it’s definitely something that, you know, you guys should check out on iTunes, pick them out on Facebook, Instagram. And hopefully, it will keep on growing, and we can keep on sharing hunting in the outdoors and show other people, you know, what we love about it.

Chris, this has been a pleasure. On behalf of hundreds of thousands of listeners across North America, you know, you’re what’s right with hunting. And so with Sportsman’s Culture, you get a big future. And I just wanna say, you know, I really appreciate your comments this morning. And just stay after it.

Thank you, sir.


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