Extraordinary Interview Working Class Bowhunter with Curt Geier

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There is more to hunting than just bows, arrows, and guns. Working Class Bowhunter host, Curt Geier, talks about what his show is all about and what kind of stories and details he likes to get from other podcasts and their guests, getting down as well on the R3 Initiative. Curt shares the hunting traditions he adheres to, the memories that he has while growing up with his dad, and the hunting experiences that made a big impact on his life. Besides all these wonderful memories, Curt also gave his preferences on hunting tools and the top things he requires hunters to have. Know more about the fun of hunting in this episode.

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Extraordinary Interview Working Class Bowhunter with Curt Geier

This episode is really fun because I’m going to interview a podcaster. I’m going to interview Curt Geier and he is one of the hosts of Working Class Bowhunter. Curt, welcome to the show.

Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

It is fun for a couple of podcasters to get together because you’ll never know what is going to happen.

We get to nerd out over podcasting pretty much. I find when I guest on other shows or we have another podcaster on our show, it takes up more time talking about podcasting than hunting sometimes, but it’s all fun.

Let’s start right off and let people know why you started Working Class Bowhunter because you’re uber-successful. You’ve helped DRock out at East Coast Bowhunting and a lot of other people in the industry. Can you lay it down how you got started?

Back in 2015 or it would have been before because we launched our first episode on the first week of March 2015. Prior to that, I had started listening to non-hunting podcasts, a few comedy podcasts on the side and mind expansion type podcasts. I looked up hunting podcast to see if there was something I could find. I had a hard time finding what was comfortable for me at the time and I thought, “It would be cool to start my own. That would be a fun project and a hobby to get into.” I put something out on my Twitter for some weird reason like, “I’m going to start a hunting podcast.” A guy that followed me, which is now one of my cohosts, we call him Stephen Moller and he’s the big comedian guy on our show.

He had a comedy podcast that he was part of at the time and he reached out and said, “I just got into hunting, but I know comedy and I know podcasting. If you want to come to our studio and be a guest?” I went on his show with a bunch of non-hunters as a pure comedy podcast and BS-ed with them and I was like, “This is really fun.” This was before hunting season. All throughout hunting season, Steve texted me probably every day, “Let’s start this podcast.” I was, “No, I’m hunting. I don’t have time to start a podcast now.” Once the season tapered off, I was like, “Let’s go get the gear and give it a shot.” Our first ten or fifteen episodes was us sitting in lawn chairs in the same room looking at each other all awkward. We were basically talking into blank space at that point. It’s snowballed into this little monster we created and it’s a ton of fun. It’s one of the best things I’ve ever done.

Let’s talk about Working Class. A lot of people try to put themselves in a specific area, but we all work. How did that title come along?

I wanted to have a title and a vibe with our show that was relatable, comfortable and something that the majority of hunters could enjoy. The majority of hunters are hardworking people and they talk the way we talk. We’re pretty edgy with our language. We’re pretty loose with our conversations and we talk about anything and everything like how you would in hunting camp with your buddies. You might talk about super specific hunting tactics for a big chunk of time and for the rest of it, you might not talk about hunting. Talk about giving each other crap about something you did when you were hunting or whatever it may be. We mix it all together. We have a good time and it’s really the bottom line. We’re having a good time, not at work, talking about what we love to do.

I had a podcast with a lady from Gear Junkie, Nicole Qualtieri, and we summarized the whole hour but she said, “What I want to do in hunting is have fun.” In so many times in social media and all over, we got so wound up in the aspect of, “I’ve got to kill this buck, this elk,” or whatever and we put so much pressure. Hunting is supposed to be fun and I think some people miss that because, “I’ve got to do this. I’ve got to have this. I’ve got to spend all this money. I’ve got to do this.” You don’t have to do anything. You can get a pair of jeans. You get a pair of sweat pants, a jacket or a hoodie, a license, a rifle or bow and go hunting and you can kill a deer.

That’s where I always get into. It depends on how far you want to take it. If that’s where you want to stop and enjoy yourself, that’s awesome. I put pressure on myself intentionally to do good, but I always have and that’s fun to me. I enjoy that self-pressure. That’s what motivates me. If it wasn’t for hunting, I don’t know what kind of person I would be in my daily life without it. I’d still feel that I’d be a motivated person, but I feel that because I have the drive to hunt as hard as I do, especially bow hunting, it helps me in other places in life. It’s my self-healing and mental check. It keeps me ticking the correct way.

Especially when a buck kicks your ass.

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That will really bring you grounded and you need that. You’ve got to be humbled every year and every year you’re like, “I had a good season last year. Let’s go.” The next thing you know, you get slapped upside the face.

Mr. Wonderful comes by and he comes out completely 180 where you thought he was going to come out. You’re looking in the wrong way and all of a sudden, you know he’s there and you’re screwed. You’re done.

It’s one of those things you practice all year long and you’re shooting your 60-yard shots and then you miss a fifteen-yard shot at a buck because he got nervous and there goes the mental warfare with yourself on how the heck did that happen. You beat yourself up and then you go back and get back on the horse and it’s even harder from there.

One thing I know that a lot of people are better at 40, 50, 60 yards and some people are shooting half a lot longer. A buck comes in tight under twenty yards and they don’t really know how to handle it.

I think to me a lot of it is experience. It’s stand time with a buck underneath you. You can listen to as many podcasts as you want, but until you have a buck underneath you a handful of times at ten, fifteen, twenty yards, it’s hard to prepare for that exact type of situation. To be able to handle a situation like that, you have to put yourself in that situation and that’s where experience is king.

It’s time in the stand and if you’re not doing that, you can get lucky. I know some guys tunnel long enough. They’ll pick out three days during the year and that’s when they hunt their target. The rest of the time, they’re still hunting, observing and they’re out there. When they get really serious, they said, “Here’s my number one hit list buck. Three days, this stand and this place if the wind is right,” and that’s their whole season. They might take a doe or they might not shoot a buck at all but I know guys that have got to that point that everything’s rolled up into those tree sits.

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They’re that dialed in. It’s cool to talk to those guys and hear their game plans. I can’t do that. I like to go out and shoot does and hunt. I like to spend the time up there just as much as I like killing big bucks.

What state are you from?

I’m from Northwest Illinois, just south of the Quad Cities is where our studio is. We are right on the Mississippi.

You get all that Cooley Country or Bluff Country.

We’re just South of that. That’s an hour north of us where we get to what they would call the non-glaciated area or the Driftless Area.

That’s what I was thinking of. You’re south of Prairie du Chien?

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Savannah, Illinois is where I would consider it starts and that’s an hour north of us or maybe a little further.

Explain to people Driftless Area. What does that mean?

I don’t know all the details. I know from living in the area and from what I’ve heard and what people have told me. It’s basically where glaciers haven’t gone through and flatten everything out like the rest of Illinois. Where I live basically is flat, but up in that area, it’s real nice. It’s a hill country. There are bluffs. There are rocky ledges. It’s a beautiful country and it’s a big buck country too. There’s a lot of big deer that get killed up there.

It starts up above Eau Claire County and Minnesota. It keeps going up a little north. It’s probably a couple hundred miles along the Mississippi within probably 50 miles to 100 miles of the Mississippi.

A sliver of Illinois, a little sliver of Iowa and a big chunk of Wisconsin. I’m sure it probably gets into a little sliver of a Minnesota as well. I haven’t been up that far in it. It’s a beautiful area

There are good bucks up there. Check that out. Why do we get crazy about hunting? Think of all the podcasts four or five years ago when you and I started. There weren’t that many hunting podcasts. Now, I don’t know how many hundreds or thousands of them. I welcomed them all and you welcomed them all. Why do you think that’s grown so much?

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It’s a different time than it was. Hunting podcasts are going through the same thing that hunting shows went through three or four years ago. I think hunting shows were looked at as this big idolize thing and they still are, certain shows. Everyone are like, “I could do this too.” I think how relatable it feels basically motivates consumers of the content to want to start their own thing which is good. I’d say it’s 90% good or maybe more than that. Hunting podcasts are going through the same thing. People are like, “I can do that. I’m going to try it too,” and they start their own project as a hobby or maybe it gets bigger than that and becomes a part-time business or whatever. With social media, things have changed how people view content and people realize with the technology that they can do the same thing.

I saw a post on Gear Junkie that Steve Rinella just bought First Lite. I don’t know how many podcasts he owns or MeatEater Inc. owns now, but he got connected with Mark Kenyon.

It’s funny too because I never scroll through hunting podcasts ever, but I was on iTunes seeing what was on the feed and I noticed there were three or four podcasts now with the little sliver in the bottom right corner with the MeatEater logo. I didn’t realize that he had took ownership of that few shows.

He bought them all.

It’s good for those guys.

It just shows what can happen and the other guy, Dan Johnson, who I’ve met at ATA only once, he is an aggregator and he’s got different podcasts that he went through. He hosts and he does a great job at that.

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Dan’s a good guy. We actually did a back and forth podcast with him. We actually recorded it months ago at the Iowa Deer Classic. We had a booth there and we recorded in two parts. We did the first part on ours and the second part on his. We both got busy and we just launched. From the first weekend of March, we’re like, “We suck. We’re so busy.”

That’s another way that you can aggregate and get the content out because people want good content. They want to be entertained and I think podcasting is a great way to do it because there are podcasts on absolutely any subject matter you’re interested in.

I can’t even stand listening to the radio. There’s some good content on the radio. I tell some people that I work with, “You don’t listen to any podcasts. What are you interested in? If you’re interested in something, type it in the search bar and there’s a podcast for you that you’ll really enjoy.” People are like, “I never thought about it.” I’m like, “Think about it and get on there.” In the same turn, I have guys that I work with that are into woodworking podcasts and car podcasts. That’s the cool thing about it. Podcasting can help people dive into whatever avenue of interests they have, whether it’s cars, woodworking, hunting. It might be strictly bow hunting, which we’re just a bow hunting podcast, but we do discuss a little bit of it all. If you’re into rifles, there’s a podcast out there somewhere for you.

As influencers in the outdoor industry, we can have a part of R3 initiatives that are going on in every state and there are conversations all over the country. That’s Recruitment, Reactivation and Retention of hunters. What’s your thought on the R3 initiatives?

I think now more than ever that we have a big impact. We had a big impact then, but because of the growth in podcasting and growth of the people consuming the content of podcasts, it is huge for getting people into hunting and getting people interested and getting new people in. Joe Rogan talking about hunting, in general, is huge for our community. It’s maybe the biggest thing that’s happened to get new hunters into it. I couldn’t name something else that has been that big, but we all play a part of that. Even if it’s a little sliver, we’re all doing something. I feel that the Working Class Bowhunter podcasts, our sliver is that we’re a little different than most.

I can’t say we’re the first, I’d say one of the first podcasts to be loose with our language and conversation more than other hunting podcasts for an outside of the hunting industry perspective. Some people might be like, “This is isn’t for me but it’s funny.” From my perspective, someone that doesn’t hunt could listen to our show and laugh with us and feel that they’re one of us or sitting with us and the hunting conversation might get them to, “I think I could go for that.” A lot of us at Working Class Bowhunter, I don’t think we look the stereotypical hunter that you see us out and about. I rarely wear camo in public. I have skateboarding shoes and I’m tattooed and got big gauge holes in my ears. I don’t look like the normal country boy hunter that everyone would think. I think that alone can appeal to people outside of our niche or maybe I’m wrong.

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You’re right because I had DRock on and if you saw him out, very few people ever think he was a hunter.

DRock’s podcast East Coast Bowhunting is a very new podcast and they’re doing really well out on the East Coast. They found that East Coast niche and they’re different. DRock is a Mexican boy who loves and talks about it. He jokes about it and makes it fun. He speaks Spanish so he got his accent. He does well with it all in positive ways. He’s the guy that has a Viking braid and doesn’t look a hunter. When he comes to trade shows with us and he shows up looking not like a hunter with a leather jacket, Viking braid, all tattooed and looking like a rough little kid or something like that. Our group is a little different, but I feel we’re all good people and hopefully get new people into it that wouldn’t normally think about it or maybe didn’t have the chance to learn from their dad or grandfather or whatever. That’s our angle of influence.

It’s entertaining and we’re all entertaining in different ways, but that’s the beauty of podcasts. You can find your own tribe if you will. You can find your own community and we’re all hunters. Around the campfire, we’re all talking about the same stuff. It doesn’t matter who we are, what gender we are or what’s our nationality. It doesn’t matter. We’re hunters and we’ve got the common ground that is so important.

I can’t remember who I was talking to but they said, “How many close friends do you have that don’t hunt nowadays?” It’s slim. Most of my friends now are all hunters. That common interest makes for a strong bond relationship. I have a few friends that don’t hunt but if you think about it, most of my friends now are hardcore hunters or getting into hunting because we share that same passion. It’s cool what kind of relationships can build off just on common interest.

Let’s visit for a little bit about women in the outdoors from the Working Class hunters. How many of your listeners do you think are women?

I don’t know. I’ve never really thought about that. Not many. If I had to break it down in a percentage, I’d say 10%. Maybe it’s more or maybe it’s a lot less.

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Because I know in social media, Facebook used to break up the demographics. I know my Instagram account does and I’m running about 13% of my followers on Instagram are women. I talked to Brad Luttrell from GoWild and he said the biggest increase was women. It’s part of the industry that we got to make sure that they’re welcomed, comfortable and they can take part in whatever we’re doing.

Maybe I’m right about that 10% than I thought initially. We tried to as often as possible have women on when we get the opportunity. It’s not that I’m trying not to have them on, but the opportunity honestly doesn’t come up that often. We’ve had a lot of women on and I think those episodes will cause some of our women listeners to reach out and say, “That was awesome. I love that you did this.” At Working Class Bowhunter, we’re all about legit women that have a passion in the outdoors, the people that are doing it for the right reasons. I’ll be honest, we full-blown for the most part exploit people that make women look bad in this industry as far as other women that can shoot themselves in the foot for other women in the industry, if that makes sense. The bad look like not every girl on Instagram needs to have their cleavage out. We rip on that to no belief and that’s where we get a lot of our messages and feedback from other legit women who are in this because it’s their tradition. They grew up doing it. They’re passionate about it. They’re respectful about this industry and the image of it and all that. I feel that even though sometimes it might be harsh to rag on the women that are giving it a negative look, I feel that it’s also important.

I think it’s very important because if we’re trying to recruit people. Women don’t want to compete against another one or even think that or have that part of the conversation that, “I have to look like X or I can’t hunt.” That’s wrong.

When I go to a hunt and guys will make the joke like, “You don’t want to see that,” I’m like, “No.” When I get in the Working Class Bowhunter Podcast Instagram, the last thing I want to follow is hunting pages that show that. I’m following hunting pages to see hunting stuff. I don’t want to see cleavage and girls in thong bikinis sitting on coolers. I don’t care about that. If I’m following in hunting pages, I want to see real hunting content. Don’t show me that. I’m so sick of it. It’s corny. I think it’s a bad look. That’s why all the women that we’ve had on our show as a guest on the podcasts are legit role models for other women and young women in the hunting industry because that’s what we care about is the image of what that is. We’ve got to keep doing that. We’ve got to stomp out that whole model hunter bullcrap. I get sick of it and I’m sure everyone else does too.

The manufacturers take note because people in industry that are influencing the industry don’t want to see it. I sure don’t want to see it because I got granddaughters and grandsons. It doesn’t belong and nobody cares. When you’re in hunting camp, it doesn’t matter anyway because we’re all hunters. That’s what we are. That’s why we’re there and there’s differences grow up and treat everybody like they’re hunters. Talk about your hunting tradition. You love the hunt and we talked about people that only have three days and still getting the bucks, but what about your hunting tradition?

My hunting tradition has changed throughout the time I’ve hunted from when I was a little kid until now. Well before the podcast when I was younger into bowhunting and getting into bowhunting, it was spending time in hunting camp with all our friends and with my dad. We are talking hunting and going out all day, coming back, strategizing, BS-ing with everyone and eating a good meal. It’s basic hunting camp stuff. There’s not really one thing I could pin down. Now more than ever because of the podcast, we do a lot of after kill podcasts where if I kill a buck or if Eric, one of the other cohosts, kills a buck, we’ll hop in and podcast about it. We have our big podcasts logo. It’s like a backlit stainless steel cut out of our logo in the studio.

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We’ll turn the LED lights on it red and we leave that red for a week after each kill we have with our bows. It’s a fun thing. I can see how long can you keep the light on, but it’s talking with your buddies. That’s my hunting tradition. I don’t have one set in stone thing that I do every year, which I think is good. Sometimes I wish I had the one thing. Eric, and we call him Mustache Doug, he fills in on the podcasts a lot. They watch the movie. Their tradition is watching Escanaba in da Moonlight before hunting season. That’s their thing. Other than that, it’s a super generic answer. I don’t have anything better than that. It’s spending time with your boys.

Thinking back on all the hunting stories, what’s one of the hunting stories that stands out for you that you take away and when you’re thinking about hunting, you always filter back to that or drift back to that one?

It’s not even one of my hunts, to be honest. Especially younger spending time in camp with my dad hunting and all that, I was the youngest guy in hunting camp. I was the only kid that was a legit bow hunter. I was around all these adults and hearing their stories back at camp and my dad killed a buck back in ‘04. I was fourteen at the time. We call it the Geier buck now. It’s all our listeners of the podcast know it as. My dad’s story of that buck, that’s the one story I always go back to or the one thing that probably changed the way I think about big bucks and just big mature whitetails in general. That’s the one story I go back. My dad killed this mainframe eight-pointer that was 191 inches. It’s absurd-looking. It’s a giant Illinois brute of a buck. I think he’s 26 inches inside. He looks fake. It’s a crazy look in whitetail, big gap out frame. My dad’s story was he backpacked in with his climber and climbed up this tree and killed this buck a couple hours in going back to his bed.

He’s like, “I saw him. His rack was getting tied up in the sticks when it came in and I put the pin on him at twenty yards. He went over to the top of the ravine and I saw him drop. I knew it was big.” He was actually peeing in a bottle when it walked in. He’s screwing the Gatorade cap back on the bottle. The story of him going to get it and he walked up to it and he was like, “I had no idea this buck was that big,” because then you had to turn on our two-way radio. “Turn your two-way radio on at ten and let me know where you’re at if you’re back at camp.” He radioed his buddy and he came in with his quad and he was standing in front of the rack so he couldn’t see it and he stepped aside and hearing the story about all these people freaking out over it.

I was in eighth grade at the time and my mom came to school middle of the day and pulled me out of class. She’s like, “Curt, your dad just shot a 16-pointer.” I was so into hunting at the time being in eighth grade. I could not believe it. I was so ecstatic about it. My dad came and picked me up from school with that buck in the back of his truck. I remember seeing it and being mind-blown. That was my first experience around it. It was a true giant. It changed my perspective on bow hunting altogether. It’s one of those stories that impacted me and my passion for hunting more than any of my own experiences altogether.

Did he know that buck was in the area?

WTR Curt | Hunting PodcastsWhat’s funny about it is I saw the buck a week before dogging a doe. I was younger. I was hunting out in a ladder stand on a field edge and I saw him chase a doe through the field. I didn’t realize how big the deer actually was because I never saw his wide frame. I saw him from the side and that was it. Other than that, he had no idea. He knew the spot he was going to was a good spot and that buck happened to cross his path.

You said he was going back to the bedding area. Your dad had to figure out he was close to his core area. How close in his bedding area do you think he was?

I honestly think he was right up in it. My dad’s a ninja man. He still is. My dad will be 60 and he’s still backpacks in everything. Hardcore hanging hunt, true running guns style since back in the day now. He just went in. He knew it was a good spot. He knew it was a bedding area and he went risky. He went in super early and threw his climber on a tree and got up there and double longed him. That’s before all the trail cams and all that stuff. I think we had a 35-millimeter one at a time, like an old stealth cam and it never worked. It’s one of those things. It’s a lot of luck that he was there, but he went in smart and it paid off big.

Your dad killed this monster of a buck without any electronic advantages as we have today. I go back to Maine and the Benoit Brothers, they used to get on bucks and stay out until they killed them or the sun went down. I remember Dan Johnson talking about running and gunning and his style of hunting and a lot of guys do that. I don’t get up and trees anymore. There are some double set ladder stands that I’ll get into but other than that, I don’t hang into these climbers at all anymore. I prefer to sit on the ground. Seeing all that, it’s knowing where you have to be to me is more important than anything else you could do. You’re going to get the access and exit. Your dad went in early, get set up and knew that he was in the right place. The mental game that you play, you have to be so confident to say, “This is where I need to be. This is why I need to be there. I’m going to get there and see what happens.”

My dad then and still with him being a little older now, he’s not scared to try things. You’ve got to fail to be successful. My dad went in, “I’m going for it.” He went in with this climber on his back and that’s the way he’s always been any. We hunted out of hang-on stands from not long after that on. He got his climber back out and started hitting it hard and was on a lot of good deer. He didn’t find one he wanted to shoot, but he was all over him. What’s funny, the climber that he killed that buck out of, he got it on sale after season at Walmart for $40. It was an old River’s Edge Climber. I’d hate to see the number of bucks he’s killed out of that stand. If the buck is over 140, it’s up there. Does are sickening number, but a $40 climber. It goes back to what you were saying, you don’t really have to spend that much money if you don’t want to. You can make it work. That’s a heavy stand and it’s miserable to get it back in there but he would do it.

Dan Infalt was on the podcast a while back and we talked about that one thing. You don’t need all the stuff and marketing and TV shows and everything. If you have XP, then this scrapes is going to be a killer scrape or you shoot this bow or this arrow or this broadhead or wear this camo and have these rubber boots, XXX. It’s all marketing.

To a point, I will say one thing. My major things that I feel that if you’re going to throw your money at a couple of things, I would say a good bow is my number one tool. I’ll dump heavy money into a bow knowing that I have equipment that’s not going to fail, especially if I do a hike and hunt. If that’s the style of hunting you want to do, a good set up, a good light tree stands set up. If that’s your method, if you’re a ground blind guy, a good ground blind that sets up easy where you can really make moves or whatever it is.

If you like ladder stands, get a good ladder stand that if you’ve got to move it, it’s not too difficult. The two things that allow you to be successful, that would be my top two things I would dump money into. It would be a good archery set up and I love hang-on stands. A good hang-on stand is going to be my other top tool to get it done. Everything else, you don’t really have to have the best camo. If you can hide in a good stand and you can shoot good with a good bow, that’s really the top two in my opinion. Maybe there’s more up there, but those are definitely the ones that stick out to me.

You’ve got to have three sets of steps. I don’t know how high you go so you have two or three sets of steps.

It all depends on how you want to do it. You can do a lot of stuff with screw-in steps. You can do a lot with three or four sticks. I prefer four sticks just in case you need it but even then, it’s what the situation calls for. If I had a straight tree in an area that was a pinch and I didn’t have a lot of cover, I want to be up a little higher. I try to have four sticks in my hang-on stand and that’ll get me where I want to be usually. I always have a couple of screw-in steps in my pack in case I want to get a foot or two higher or I need to screw one end to where I can grab and get it in comfortably and safely. A good light hang-on set up is a big deal for me. Those are the top two things for me personally.

When that’s set up, you can truly run and gun and you see if a buck’s working a different ridge and your funnel or a pinch point. He’s running the acorns up there or whatever he’s doing. In a matter of minutes, you can be down over there and set back up and be ready to go.

That’s what I love about them is they’re not that hard to take down there. They’re fairly light. The new Lone Wolf Custom Gear set up, the D’Acquisto series is going to be my number one tool. They will not leave my back. That’s the number one product I’m most excited about because it’s not going to be as much of a hassle. If you got to make a move if a buck’s doing a certain thing, you get in there quiet quietly and it’s nice and light and you carry in, you can set up. You could set that thing up in the dark and be ready to rock. That’s my number one thing that I’m looking forward to.

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It amazes me how some of the guys and gals on the show slip in the dark and set up their hang-on because in a lot of public land, you can’t leave a standup overnight or it’s confiscated.

That’s another good point. If you’re exclusively a public land guy, good money and your stand set up, that’s your method of hunting, that’s big. You’ve got to have something light, especially those guys that are either canoeing in or backpacking way the hell back there. You don’t want something heavy and clunky. Light and quality are not cheap with anything. That might be an area where you want to dump some money into in my opinion. It’s good quality stuff and hopefully it’s American made.

We started off talking about Working Class Bowhunters, the people you represent, the type of guys you are, how you’ve carved out your niche and you’ve got great followers both on the podcast and in social media. For me, it’s great to see guys like you and DRock and the help that you gave DRock from East Coast Bowhunters. It gives me hope for the future that we’ve got enough guys making enough difference as influencers to say, “I’m going to do this. I’m going to try this,” and then get them involved. It’s a good job.

Thank you. Sometimes I feel as if we don’t do enough as a whole, but we try where we can.

Every once in a while, I’ll look at that and then I’ll get an email or something or somebody will text me and say, “Blah, blah blah,” and I just want to say thank you and you go, “Okay.” That’s what it is because if one person took the time to do that, then there are probably hundreds of other people that thought it but didn’t take the time to trust themselves.

Anytime you can help someone do anything in hunting and it’s good, it’s cool. It’s an amazing industry and community. We shut off the industry altogether, it’s a good community of people. The bottom line, no matter what social media makes you think, we’re good people. Social media is so good and so bad.

We got an old guy and a young guy talking about the same thing for 45 minutes or so and we’re on common ground. We could go as long as we want him to go. I don’t have that luxury now. Let’s summarize the show and leave a message for the audience and then we’ll call it a show.

You can find us at WorkingClassBowhunter.com in any podcast platform. We have a video series on CarbonTV. I’m working on a lot of stuff and put out a new episode out every week. When I close up my show, we always say, “Go shoot your bow.”

Thanks so much for being a guest on this episode.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

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About Curt Geier

WTR Curt | Hunting PodcastsHometown: Sherrard, IL

Years Hunting: 15 years

Favorite Outdoor Memory: Helping my dad blood trail his first big Pope & Young buck back when I was a youngster. I consider this the turning point in my obsession and it was such a positive and exciting memory. A big late-season buck taken with 8″ of snow on the ground.

People you looked up to growing up: The hunting heroes that I watched on TV all the time: Realtree Road trips, Monster Bucks, and chuck Adams. There’s so many more. It’s hard to make a list. I also looked up to a group of guys I grew up hunting with: My dad, Jim Burns, Jeff Pals

Favorite thing about Archery / Bowhunting: I love the fact that you can take it as far as you want. You never know it all.

Currently, your favorite bands: Tyler Childers, Sturgill Simpson, Cody Inks, The Devil Makes Three, Comeback Kid, Evergreen Terrace. Really anything just depends on my mood.

Favorite hobby besides bowhunting?

I’m wanting to focus back on my bike riding days in the summer months and focus on 3D archery more. I find myself getting more and more into collecting tattoos.

Bucket list hunts? All archery of course. Elk, Moose, Mule Deer. I think a Super 10 with a bow would be a great experience.

Occupation: Engineering Technician / Product Development for John Deere